You Won’t Believe This: Filmmaker Says Native Genocide Didn’t Happen


During a July 2 interview with Megyn Kelly, host of Fox News’ “The Kelly File,” filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza says the genocide of the Indigenous Peoples of this country didn’t happen.

Bill Ayers, an elementary education theorist and former leader in the opposition of U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, went head to head with D’Souza during the interview.

“The American Indian population shrank by 80 percent over 150 years,” D’Souza says. “The main reason for that was not because of warfare or systematic killing, it’s because the white man brought with him from Europe diseases to which the Native Americans… did not have any immunities.”

D’Souza, who produced the film “America,” couldn’t be more wrong. The diseases weren’t only brought over from Europe, but literally handed to the Indigenous Peoples in blankets with the intention of wiping out the population to take their land. Do we even need to mention the Indian Removal Act or boarding schools?

Watch the full video and see Ayers and the YouTube commentator defend these positions.

Here’s a video from YouTube—start watching at 2:35—with some commentary:

Or read the transcript from the show here.

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newworldman's picture
Submitted by newworldman on
Megyn Kelly also had on her show Ben Shapiro, who vehemently defended the use of the Redskins mascot for the Washington DC football team. Her guest Simon Moya-Smith (an attorney and Native American) was the lone protester among three defenders of the mascot. Megyn nearly shut him down while giving Shapiro free rein to speak his mind. Odd, considering that Shapiro, like Redskins owner Dan Snyder, is Jewish, and they know all too well what targeting an ethnic group with slurs and discrimination can do.

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Submitted by alexjacobs on
90% of most tribes were killed, died from diseases, some were of course 100% eliminated, it was total war, in other countries & wars, the population would bounce back because the civilian population - women & children weren't targeted-- our families were targeted---sources say at least 50 million dead since contact...its genocide proper...

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Submitted by cerena on
Blood quantum, forced dilution, and the resulting self-termination is on-going genocide.

Ruth Crook
Ruth Crook
Submitted by Ruth Crook on
O. M. Freaking G!!!!! This is unbelievable!! A lot of the time I am ashamed of my name. My husband's family is related to General George Crook - "A great Indian fighter". As if that were a good thing! Our written and oral history is replete with examples of malice against Native populations. It must take some amazing determination to filter it out!

John Schnaubelt
John Schnaubelt
Submitted by John Schnaubelt on
Didn't happen!? Sadly, it is still going on today.

John Schnaubelt
John Schnaubelt
Submitted by John Schnaubelt on
Ask people if they would have been a slave-owner in the 1700s and 1800s, and today the majority would say "heck no!". But the truth of the matter is, it was the norm back then. Everybody owned slaves. Presidents owned slaves. So if they say "no", then they are probably lying to you. Ask those same people if they would have been an abolitionist and you'll probably get a "yes". But abolitionists were shunned, especially in the south. Kind of like the Marshall court judges, who took risks in proclaiming that we must honor treaties and we can't just "remove" indians to make way for expansionism. These were not popular opinions or rules of law. And it still affects us today! The Indian Removal Act is still on the books, and needs to be repealed. Washington Redskins is offensive? The Removal Act is 100x more offensive! Jackson suspended judicial review during his two terms, and Congress went along with him. Only the judiciary stood firm and said "no we can't remove Indians by force from their homes". But the judiciary had no way to enforce their rule of law. Is there a statute of limitations for judicial review? Because if not, I think Jackson's policies towards the Indians needs to be reviewed and reparations made, starting with disbanding the BIA and handing over Native trust responsibility to a federation of all Native Tribes. Surely Indians can manage their trust assets better than any government agency can, and surely they are as competent as any US citizen today to do so. The BIA is the country's most fraudulent, criminal cabal, and with the BIA as their mentor, it's no wonder most Native tribes are led by corrupt leaders who only care about themselves. Not all, mind... but certainly most. Just one Wasichu opinion.

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Penny Nebrich
Submitted by Penny Nebrich on
Yeah, we know. And the Holocaust didn't happen either. Where do these morons come from?

ElvinM's picture
Submitted by ElvinM on
D'souza is a idiot who has had everything he says proven wrong by Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks

Raymond G's picture
Raymond G
Submitted by Raymond G on
He does not know what he is talking about. Go to a few of the reservations and speak to some of our elders and they will tell you exactly what happened. Plus. I suppose all previous researchers did't not what they were talking about?