Re: ICWA.... A lot of adoptees from the pre-ICWA era are still very much alive and the ICWA laws do not apply to these elders. They are the forgotten. Many judges are ignorant of ICWA laws and do not know how to apply them and ensure that they are being followed by adoption agencies. In fact, adoption agencies are known to only send information on the child's mother when asking whether the child is from the tribe or not. If a tribe's ICWA representative doesn't catch this on the tribe's end, the adoption agency skirts by ICWA law. A child cannot be determined to be part or not part of a tribe without the information for both parents.